Have you told your family/friends about SEE?

[Crazy Like a Fawkes]

I worked up the courage to explain SEE to my mother, and it was not fun. She doesn't dislike LGBT persons per se...but she doesn't exactly support gay rights. Which doesn't really make sense to me, but I supposed it is better than the guy I know whose idea of a conversation starter is "I hate gay people.”

Yeah, he actually said that today in lieu of a greeting. And then he said he loved Borat because he liked to laugh at 'ethnics'. I came thisclose to punching him in the face and delivering a rage fueled liberal rant, but...

I digress. Back to my mother.

I guess it started out okay, but the second I mentioned gay rights and Star Trek in the same sentence, her expression immediately went from "It’s good that you’re getting involved” to "I can't even believe how incredulous I am right now. I just lost any respect I had for you." She was incapable of taking it seriously, and that made it awkward and uncomfortable for me, so I did a terrible job explaining the rest, and probably made it sound like even I can't take it seriously. *sigh*

Have you told your friends or family about SEE? How did it go for you?

[Epsilon]

...I've told it in bits and pieces. I don't know if my mother has put the bits together yet, and I don't know if she'll much appreciate my involvement - not because she would be adverse to the idea so much as I think she'd have her doubts as to my motivation. She would assume I'm working on this campaign to satisfy the slightly rabid fangirl who likes to sit on my shoulder and giggle innuendos in my ear all day. (That is true, but it's not why I'm involved.) I'm devoted to this because I want to help and be a part of a major social revolution that has the potential to change the world.

I've sent messages to any friends who might be sympathetic, but I haven't got any feedback yet. That doesn't mean much either way, though. I'm sure most of them will leap on the bandwagon with us, and the rest will tag along behind.

I know what you mean about parents losing respect for you, though. To be brief, it sucks. Badly. But I think a lot of us are going to be on the same metaphorical boat, here.

~Epsilon

[Oni]

My sister thinks all I do is a waste of time because she's an 'intellectual' and I am just the lowest of the low because I like comic Books and Science fiction, so I don't even bother to explain to her.

And If I explained to my my parents, they would just put it on their list of 'Reasons why I think my daughter is a Lesbian', even though I'm not! They would put it right next to 'Never had a boyfriend' and 'doesn't wear enough feminine clothes.'

[aolian]

I guess it started out okay, but the second I mentioned gay rights and Star Trek in the same sentence, her expression immediately went from "It’s good that you’re getting involved” to "I can't even believe how incredulous I am right now. I just lost any respect I had for you."

Aw, that must have been really discouraging. :( Kudos to you for having the courage to bring it up, though!

Have not told my parents. I know my mom would be unimpressed. To be fair, I feel a little bad about this too-- a part of me wonders, what if I am just being a rabid fangirl and trying to get my OTP together, and I'm not really doing this for social equality? Ultimately, I don't think this is really true (considering the very slim chances that K/S will ever overtly happen on the big screen, and that I'd be thrilled if they even showed two no-name guys or girls holding hands off in a corner) but I realize that, without careful phrasing, that's how it must come across to a lot of other people.

[spookyfbi]

I would, but most people I know aren't into Star Trek enough to get it. I was telling my friend about ST a while back, and I said something about Kirk and she was like "Is he the one with the pointy ears?" So yeah, I don't think they'd get it.
As for my family... it's kinda a mixed bag there. Last year my cousin said that he wanted to write a paper on why homosexuality was a mental illness. On the other hand, I've successfully turned my Mum into a K/S shipper, but then she prides herself on being pretty liberal and for gay rights, so that wasn't too hard. Still, whether for or against, everyone I know is pretty apathetic about the issue. I don't think anyone I know IRL is really gonna care enough to be of any help.
To be honest - and I feel really bad about this - I don't wanna try to raise the issue with people I know IRL for fear that my obsessiveness about it will end up alienating them. I'm more than happy to be passionate about it on the internet, what with the anonymity of it all, but in real life I'm actually kinda shy. I feel like a bit of a sell out here, but I'm hoping that I can help in internet-related capacities and not so much in real life.

[Elanor Sarralyn]

I haven't told my family, mostly because 1) nooot particularly gay-rights-woohoo! people, and 2) I haven't told them about things like this for years. I don't tell them about my social doings.

And yeah, same here--I honestly don't know many (or any, really) people IRL that are into Star Trek enough to get onboard.

However, I do know a number of Trekkies online. Once the website is launched and the movement's underway, I'll be spamming them with this, don't you worry.

[readonly1956]

My Mom is 76. She loves Star Trek, though she's more a TNG person, but I don't think she'd particularly enjoy K/S ... She's come to accept my gay friends, but still feels uncomfortable about it, I think.
My daughter has her own ships, mostly Manga/Yaoi. She enjoyed the movie and certainly could SEE the love, but, frankly, I don't think she'll ever be active in a fandom where she meets her MOTHER, of all persons :)
And my RL friends just aren't into Star Trek.
So, basically, no.

[Oni]

I considered telling my best friend, unfortunately she is a S/U fan *weeps*, and we kind of have an unwritten code considering Fandoms that we like but don't share the same OTP.
We don't talk about it. Since we both know, how ugly we can get when it comes to an OTP, and its not worth ruining our friendship. We tolerate and respect each other's OTP.

[Chaos]

I am not to eager too, due to having Christian parents...

Yeah, I am Christian, but not a religious judgemental prick. I am also straight...

Anyways, I prefer not to say anything, because it would be really awkward...

[Terry Shayar]

No, I haven't told. And probably never will. My family does NOT like homosexuality in any way. I'm the only one that appears to think otherwise amongst them. Maybe it's because I myself am kind of sexually confused sometimes lol. I have told a few close friends about it, because they know me, and they won't judge. They know I'm all for LGBT rights, but they won't outright support it. Although I have asked them for assistance when it comes to proof reading stuff, since I usually prefer to run things by a few of my best mates when it comes to such important documents. And they've only been too happy to help. They just don't want to get directly involved, I think.

[Crazy Like a Fawkes]

Perhaps 'worked up the courage' is not the term I should have used. I wasn't really planning on telling her, I never tell my parents things like this, and quite honestly I don't know why I did. I can't really say her response was surprising, but it was disheartening all the same. It makes me question myself and being part of SEE, and I don't like that. She almost seemed like she thought it too ridiculous to disapprove of.

I suppose I should just count myself lucky that I didn't get a repeat of the 'Stranger Danger: Internet Version' speech that she made after watching a dateline special about myspace. -_-

[Steamcry]

Oh, stranger danger speeches. I've been hanging around online for probably 8 years now, and my mother still gives me them. And last I'd checked I'd been living mostly on my own for a while now. ~.~

Some of my online people that knew me back them still have a good laugh at hearing her rant at me about malls, meeting them, and rape time.

And I unfortunately live smack in the middle of the Bible Belt. :| I never found anything wrong with homosexuality, and I didn't even realize people were so against it until I got older. I kind of grew myself up on it and it utterly floored me about the hatred. Most of my friends are pretty neutral on the topic though. They figure if people are happy, then who cares. (My parents are still convinced I'm a "proper, conservative Christian, though.)

I do have a group I'm shuffling off to nu!Trek this Friday though. They haven't been into Star Trek before, so I'm getting them going with the newest one. I'm 100% certain that a connection will be made for the cause without even opening my mouth. I'll be sending them off this way soon. :P

[aolian]

Ugh, I can definitely sympathize. My best friend is gay and is actively attending rallies to support a gay rights bill in my city, yet when I told her about SEE she was... less than enthusiastic. I was talking about the positive impact it could have, not about OMGHOTBOYSKISSING, but I'm pretty sure she thinks it's just a bunch of rabid shippers. Not particularly encouraging.

Yeah, I think the hardest thing for this campaign to overcome might be the 'rabid fangirl' thing that people read into it being focused specifically on K/S. It is pretty discouraging to hear other people not taking the idea seriously, although I suppose I can't blame them for having that knee-jerk reaction. :|

That's okay, though! I think this comm is flexible and dedicated enough (and has enough talented supporters) to work with or get past the criticism. I have faith, guys. :)

[Terry Shayar]

Well, once we get the site fully launched, perhaps we can get our pens sharpened and start writing essays about the female role in media as well. Make it a two-pronged attack! Kinda.

I think too many people in the LGBT community in my corner of the globe are kinda desensitized? I dunno, it's like I think most of them accept the stereotype of them being wrong, overly effeminate, no guts... pretty much like females with the wrong equipment. And it really saddens me to see what prejudice in Singapore has done to the community. So it's difficult for me to speak to the friends that I know who are gay/lesbian. I don't even know how to approach them about this. It's the straight friends who seem to understand that I can speak to about this.

[Pirate College Graduate]

Man, RL sucks. XD Naw, we'll find a way to get people on board. The more advertising we do, the better we have a chance of gaining members.

As for me, I have told two people I know IRL. The first person I told is my mom, and she is fully supporting me, even though I'm not sure if she's taking the cause 100% seriously, even though she assures me she is. She signed the petition but said that she never got the confirmation email (and yes, she checked her spam box XD And emailed the webmaster). She may donate some money at some point, she told me, and I'll try to donate some too.

I also emailed my good friend Paige, because I recently discovered that she loves Trek herself, and when I mentioned that Spock needed to be with Kirk she agreed. I have not yet received an email from her, but I hope she'll at least sign the petition. Band camp is coming up for her, so I'm not sure if she'll have to time work on art for the forum, but we shall see.

As for me, I don't consider this a fangirl effort. If I wanted to see kisses and googly eyes I could just turn on Oxygen. I believe I'm here to keep Gene's promise alive. Last night, in my sleep, all these TOS K/S moments would flash in my mind, and I woke up with renewed confidence that this relationship is definitely considered the OTP of Star Trek. I also awoke feeling annoyed. It just amazes me that even though the years are advancing, Star Trek's, and society's, views on Homosexuality and its effect on the media are slowly retreating into the Stone Age. Gene wanted a homosexual relationship within HIS creation (although we all know it's real in our hearts XD) and the producers are not honoring his wishes, as the idea of gaining a profit is more important to them than the idea of boldly going in a new direction.
I'd have to say that another motivator of mine is anger. I'm tired of all these "Christian" girls in my community that say being gay is wrong and that gays will go to hell, and then going and getting themselves knocked up because they don't have the guts to tell their men "hey, put that condom on!" It just sickens and angers me. Hypocrites are another reason I fight for the cause.
I'm not bitter, no. I'm just ready to fight for what I believe is right.

Lindsay

[Andrina]

Yeah I have told My Mom since she is a big Star Trek fan and did not get a great response. Not a really bad one though. I haven't told my friends yet but thas because I don't really get to talk to them or seem them much at the moment. I am going to try to get some of them on board soon though. We can do this guys!

[TheLoyalOne]

I haven't told anyone and I'm probably never going to tell my parents. Call me a coward but I'm really leery over how they'll react. It's not that I think they'll be mad about it, because a couple of my dad's godchildren are gay and it really made no impact in how the family sees them, it's that I think they won't take it seriously. Or wonder why, in the middle of my hardest semesters of college, am I wasting my precious time with this. And frankly, I think that's the worst reaction possible. If they do go all right-wing crazy mad at me, then I can dismiss it as them being all right-wing crazy but if they ask why I'm doing this when I have "more important" things to focus on, yeah, that would hurt.

I might tell a friend or two depending on reactions to feelers I put out. One friend is against K/S but hates what they did with Uhura in the movie so maybe I can get her in there. Yay for brainwashing-I mean, um, yeah.

[Pirate College Graduate]

I might tell a friend or two depending on reactions to feelers I put out. One friend is against K/S but hates what they did with Uhura in the movie so maybe I can get her in there. Yay for brainwashing-I mean, um, yeah.


Which ship does your friend support then? What is her reasoning for being against K/S? It's so adorable and canon. :confused:

[Larxenne]

Interesting...

When the site goes up and pages go up on the social networking sites, I am for sure inviting all of my friends. I've talked to a few of my awesome K/S buddies about this, and they think it's awesome and will get involved at some point (hooray for San Franciscans). My parents don't care what I do online, but I guess I should tell them as they are telling me I need to get involved and volunteer for something...but I think since this is more of an online thing I'll end up volunteering (on top of SEE) for some gay rights groups in my area.

[Catty-the-spy]

My mom knows (I brought it up before the forum existed, back when I was summarizong this on ff.n) and she said she was proud of me, and then she reminded me about internet safety (and - when I mentioned a RL party the could possibly exist further down the road - told me that I'd be allowed to come so long as she was with me...which is a good sign).
My grandfather knows that I'm involved in something (he doesn't know what) because he heard me babbling about it to my mom. I'm not quite sure what he thinks.
My grandma won't be told until we live in seperate locations and I don't spend 90% of my day alone inthe house with her. I might not even tell her then. Can you believe, she's more relaxed about abortion than she is about gay rights? (She's free choice, but thinks that gays (and their supporters) are going to hell. (o.O))
So...yeah.
My hermitage means that I haven't come into contact with many people not related to me. Those I have are either 1) My grandma's friends 2) People I don't know or 3)My grandfather's friends.
The only friend I've talked to recently (who happens to be turning 17) is kinda...immature. She'd get this wiggy expression and look at me like I was crazy, probably accompanied by a "That's kinda weird..."
I also haven't seen her in...a month. I'll probably send her an e-mail about it once the site is up and all.

[bakedbrownie]

Just mentioned SEE on Facebook. I hope it goes well and my friends attempt to take it seriously.

*nervous*

[Pirate College Graduate]

I texted my sister and told her about K/S and that if she agrees that two men should be allowed to love one another in the public eye she should sign the petition. Needless to say that when she arrives home, another name will be on the list for our cause.

*VICTORY*

Lindsay

[Sussy]

This has got to be one of the hardest things about change. Not only is one throwing in and trying to -do- something, but battling stereotypes about fans, stereotypes about social justice movements, and also of course the stereotypes that the site was set out to fight--portrayal of LGBT and minorities in the media. Coming out of the closet so to speak, in its own little way--even if you yourself are not gay/bi/etc but support those relationships and those movements--can be a daunting thing. Its also an important one, because every time someone doesn't support your cause or your reasoning you get a chance to evaluate yourself and put yourself more firmly on track.

For instance, someone mentioned fighting the fangirl-itis. I would not have necessarily even thought about this, but it is potentially something to keep an eye on as things go forward. Other people have found that they live in areas where discrimination is rampant or that their parents' generation are not fully on board. Personally, I live in the Bay Area, and I doubt anyone would be shocked if I spammed their emails with this, other than wondering when I started loving the love as much as I do lately :P Perhaps a few people would be like, 'well, okay, but we need to focus on Prop 8!' But I know I'm lucky in those regards.

My mom would probably look at me funny, tell me I was going to hell, and then I would say that it was getting old and that I already had a fireproof bag packed and ready for my flaming departure date. No matter how much it hurts now, you can't stop yourself from being your authentic you, no matter how many threats of hell you get.

(I have nothing against religion, per se, I should add, as a side note. I believe people can believe what they want, as long as it doesn't infringe in other people's human rights and pursuit of happiness).

The best way to fight these kinds of arguments is not to knee jerk back, but try to find common ground. Try to not become too discouraged--apathy is the exact worst thing a social movement can succumb itself to because it means the movement will inevitably run out of energy and wither. So...what do you do when you bring up SEE and it falls about as flat as a lead pancake on Jupiter? What can you learn about these things so that you can take it back and work it into the movement?

Well, perhaps they just never saw S/K that way, and they believe they are just really intense friends, such as those that might have been formed during wars and so forth. But they aren't homophobic/etc. Then, the point of issue becomes asking them if they support these kinds of roles to be represented fairly in the media, and go from there.

It is always hardest to fight those that have a religious reason for homophobia/etc. or those that are firmly entrenched in their own beliefs and stereotypes. Second hardest are friends and families--their support affirms your cause and they are closest to you. It seems ironic that sometimes its hardest to get through to those that are close to you, if your opinions aren't the same in the first place. But, remember sometimes your friends are the best sounding board you have--it is important that they don't always agree with you, or you'll never learn anything from them.

So, what about me personally? Am I an anomaly for being a bi-but married (to a male) college student living in the Bay Area that supports the rights of others to live their lives to the fullest and reach their full potential for love, security, representation, and fulfillment? The country around my little Bay Area bubble screams HELL YES. So why do I do it? Why am I here, anyways?

Because I am lucky to have gotten my choice and it shouldn't be about luck. It should not be luck that I was allowed to marry the person of my -choice-. Woe to me if that choice had happened to be a female, I would not have been so lucky. It should not be luck that gives me those tax breaks that I enjoy now. I should not have had to feel awkward during my upbringing for wanting to dress a certain way or to act a certain way that was against the feminine stereotype. I should be able to turn on the TV and see someone that I can vaguely relate to, at least on one channel! I should not have had to wonder what was wrong with me--because nothing was wrong with me. I finally saw that only after quite a number of years.

Society continues to develop strict gender roles and sexuality stifles under the blanket of suppression, instead of something to be celebrated. We may not be repressed Victorians, but to some extent we carry on their legacy through media socialization, which is a powerful modeling force. The media continues to abuse stereotypes for profit without using them to create social change. In doing so it maintains a status quo that is good for their bank accounts but bad for social development. Lastly, the reason I am here is that I support my friends and those who struggle with these issues, who see through the lens of being different and want their differences to be recognized in a positive way and not as a twisted moral Aesop--one that says "Do not be like them, or you are dysfunctional, psychotic, evil, going to hell, immoral, objectionable, a social outcast/misfit, wrong, gross, amusing but harmless, laughable, pathetic, or any other such descriptive stereotype as has been bandied by society and the media about that lack the true fullness of each and any individual person.

So, for those that cannot tell but wish they could, do. And for those that can tell but cannot do, tell. And because you are not alone, may both of those goals be accomplished.

Why Star Trek? That might be the easiest part of the whole equation. No where in existence has there been a show that was more influential around the world, that was willing to investigate stereotypes and offer thoughtful responses to current events, that had the audacity to have a cast of people in an attempt to represent the true diversity that exists, and that used its power relatively wisely in doing so. It may not always have done things the way we would do them now--every piece of literature or programming is inevitably dated to its origins--but it made the attempt. There is no reason for staying in the "safe zone" when it comes to Star Trek unless it is inevitably tied to media marketing and fears of profit loss. How can you alienate a fan base that supports an edgy, groundbreaking show? Turn it into something it is not--something that says nothing about society, that does not follow the original intent, and allow it to become a shallow stream of mindless entertainment. Ultimately, what we stand to lose in Star Trek should it remain safe is far worse than profit--we lose a media outlet that was brave enough to confront society on its own terms in the tradition of all great science fiction. Huxley, Heinlein, Adams, Dick, and Orwell and so many others who wrote not only for the purpose of entertainment and for payment, but because they had something to say about the way the world was functioning. In the end, that is what made those authors great--it stood the test of time, as has Star Trek.

The greats were doing and telling, a tradition that needs to continue to meet the new needs of society--recognition would be a start. So when you get a less than stellar reply to the movement, nod and realize that if it was easy it would have already been done. That being said, because this is turning into a rant, I'll just end with my support of you all for trying this and the IDIC: Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations!

Dif-tor heh smusma
--Sussy

PS--If this is a long rant thing and the mods want to move it, er...go ahead. I just wrote this in response to reading this entire thread and when I started typing all this came out!

[Xerxies]

I've told some of my friends, and both my parents. I kinda had to explain what the hell I was doing for 3 hours last Friday night, but I talked about it before that too. My friends are generally supportive, and I even got Chaos dear to join the forum. XD

[Xerxies]

I texted my sister and told her about K/S and that if she agrees that two men should be allowed to love one another in the public eye she should sign the petition. Needless to say that when she arrives home, another name will be on the list for our cause.

*VICTORY*

Lindsay
AWESOME~! I hope your sister is just as cool as you!

[TheLoyalOne]

That particular friend just views K&S as brothers and really good friends, Pirate. I'm not sure which ships she does support because I'm new to TOS and haven't had a decent amount of time to discuss it with her yet. She just says she can't see them that way (which is sad to me) but that making Uhura into The Love Interest was the worst thing they could've done with the character, that she is much more than that.

And thanks for the pep talk, Sussy!

[art.nerd]

I feel bad for not having told any of my friends yet.
But there's only one that I would consider trying to recruit, but...well, let me tell a story:
So my best friend, a star trek fanatic and avid reader of "Home", was over at my house, and she was on Lanaea's page on ff.net.
She saw the link to this site, and the description that went with it, and she flipped out.
Needless to say...she wasn't too keen on the idea.
So I didn't dare tell her that I was so involved with it...mainly because I wasn't in the mood to make things awkward.
I really just don't understand her veiws on K/S...she's for it one minute...and visciously against it the next...

and its probably just my luck that she has been lurking on here this whole time, and is reading this right now. XD
or maybe I'm just paranoid.
its been known to happen.

[Lance]

Well... I just showed my mother the site and told her what we were doing.

She's not too pleased. "Why didn't I make you get a job this summer? I'm kicking myself," she said.

"I'm patting myself on the back," I replied.

She's worried that if someone links this back to me then people in my hometown will find out about me. And then in turn this will destroy my father's reputation... which is the only thing that is keeping me from coming out of the closet to the majority of my home town.

"So you're forcing gay stuff down people's throat? It needs to be a slow and gradual process."

.... Cut to me, throwing myself off the Empire State Building.

Yeah, this launch is really bittersweet. I did something I'm proud of for once, and my mother is upset that I don't have a job. I had to lie about the fact that I am the founder of SEE, and that I may or may not become a public face.

Welcome to reputations and Oklahoma.

[Pirate College Graduate]

I'm sorry Lance. I told my dad that I needed money to this arts camp I was going to (and was at LAST year. It's where I currently am now) and he just looked at me all pissed and said "when I was your age, I was hustlin'. There were no fancy art camps that I went to. You should be working." To which I said, "dad, I currently have a job at the rec department. That YOU got for me. Remember?" Sigh. When it comes to money the man is useless. Mostly.

Well, as for your family being disappointed, when Hollywood gets in touch with SEE and makes a deal with all of us over the next film, they'll just have to shut their mouths. XD

Lindsay

[Steamcry]

Welcome to reputations and Oklahoma.

I get so angry at this state more often than I'd like. The mentality in most areas is just plain frustrating. I don't really have much to come out about, except for my opinions of things. And even with only that, I just can't.

I'm proud of my take on things like SEE, but the alienation and disappointment turned on me for just believing in such things is... disheartening. I can only imagine how it scales for you. :\

Sending you an air hug. It's taking the turnpike, so it should be there in a decent amount of time. (Did I mention it speeds?)

[Elanor Sarralyn]

Oh dear. *hugs Lance* Here, have another cookie, and a cupcake.

[Lance]

@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.

@Streamcry, Oklahoma is more fail that I realize sometimes. My school is such an accepting place that I forget that the outside is dark. I mean, every county in our state voted for McCain last year. *sigh* Thanks for the hug. I'll be waiting for it. I hope you gave it a pike pass though... XD

@Elanor, thank you so much. I relish in sweet things. *stuffs face with said cookie and cupcake* ^_^

[Crazy Like a Fawkes]

I'm sorry Lance. That must really suck. You've invested so much in this, and you really deserve to be taken seriously. I hope that your mom will be able to see the good in what we are doing, and see that her son has done something to be proud of. *hugs*

On a happier note, the site looks absolutely fantabulouserriffic.

[Elle]

-hugs Lance- Think of it this way, if worse comes to worse, we're your family too! You're making me realize that Indiana isn't that bad.

[Andrina]

-hugs Lance- Think of it this way, if worse comes to worse, we're your family too! You're making me realize that Indiana isn't that bad.

Thats true Lance if its one thing we have all learned from SEE is that your not alone! *Hugs*

[art.nerd]

@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.


OH WOW. That is now my goal in life.
Just the thought makes me go all fangirly. *squee* ^__^

[Elanor Sarralyn]

@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.

MAHAHAHAHAHA! YES! That has now become my Goal in Life.

Also, I blame you entirely for making me sing "I'm on a Boat" all day yesterday. :D

Mum looked at me v. oddly when I came to dinner muttering about boats under my breath. :cool:

[Pirate College Graduate]

@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.



Exactly. But please tell me Captain Fine will be there too. It's not a party without captain fine. And please tell me ZQ will be singing along with us, and he'll bring his pet Guinea Pig 'Freedom' with him too. XD

That's a fuckin' party.

Lindsay:p

[Elanor Sarralyn]

And please tell me ZQ will be singing along with us, and he'll bring his pet Guinea Pig 'Freedom' with him too. XD

Yes! "Hey, how come I only have a half-glass of water? Is it cause I'm only half-straight?" XD

ZQ = win. :eek:

[Elle]

Yes! "Hey, how come I only have a half-glass of water? Is it cause I'm only half-straight?" XD

ZQ = win. :eek:
Youtube links plox?

[art.nerd]

Youtube links plox?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-swIlKWfejs

[Sussy]

Originally Posted by Lance View Post
@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.
MAHAHAHAHAHA! YES! That has now become my Goal in Life.

Also, I blame you entirely for making me sing "I'm on a Boat" all day yesterday.

I also had "I'm on a Boat" stuck in my head all day lol, but its well worth it--I'll call it practice for the real deal :P

Lance < inserts HTML/JAVA hug here, and hides a Tribble in your pocket >

Speaking of Tribbles, I think this should cheer everyone up--just think, if things get bad enough we'll just have Misters Scott and Spock fill people's cars and pillowcases with Tribbles. They're harmless--mostly:

http://jbadgr.deviantart.com/art/Comic-KHAAAN-122971415

[Elle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-swIlKWfejs

Thank you! <3 -dies laughing- :)

[Pirate College Graduate]

Yes! "Hey, how come I only have a half-glass of water? Is it cause I'm only half-straight?" XD

ZQ = win. :eek:

:cool: God you know it.

My favorite part: "He's a guinea pig, his name is FREEDOM....and he's bisexual". There's just something about the way he says "his name is FREEDOM" that is so spot-on with all the gay/bi guys I know. ZQ does bi amazingly well. :rolleyes:

And of course, the bi-sexual fury line is not to be ignored.

Lindsay

[art.nerd]

I also had "I'm on a Boat" stuck in my head all day lol, but its well worth it--I'll call it practice for the real deal :P

Lance < inserts HTML/JAVA hug here, and hides a Tribble in your pocket >

Speaking of Tribbles, I think this should cheer everyone up--just think, if things get bad enough we'll just have Misters Scott and Spock fill people's cars and pillowcases with Tribbles. They're harmless--mostly:

http://jbadgr.deviantart.com/art/Comic-KHAAAN-122971415

I think I watched the "I'm On a Boat" video like...8 times. XD
Needless to say, it is VERY stuck in my head.


Bahahaha, Tribbles: http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7193/wehastrouble37.jpg

[Crazy Like a Fawkes]

Oh, internet. What are you doing to me? I keep experiencing the urge to yell things like "I'm on a boat!" or "Taste my bisexual fury!" or "I'm Old Gregg!" at people. But doing things like that tends not to work out so well in RL.

[Pirate College Graduate]

Oh, internet. What are you doing to me? I keep experiencing the urge to yell things like "I'm on a boat!" or "Taste my bisexual fury!" or "I'm Old Gregg!" at people. But doing things like that tends not to work out so well in RL.
OH BOY you know it. People mentioned Guinea Pigs earlier and I couldn't stop myself. But someone mentioned 'boat' in class earlier and me and two other girls started singing. It was fun times.

Lindsay

[Pirate College Graduate]

AWESOME~! I hope your sister is just as cool as you!


She's getting there, slowly but surely. I'm prepping her, but I'm going off to college, so I'll have to give her lessons in badassery over the phone and internetz. XD

[Elanor Sarralyn]

Oh god. Just spent an hour watching Pinto interviews on YouTube, and :eek:

I want them to...guh. Please. If I did RPF, I would so ship them. They have such chemistry and play off of each other so damn well.

:eek: (<--also, I love that emoticon. *addicted*)

And ZOMG they around 00:25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOCpkPJFtLY&feature=related), they say "Spork power", "Spork it out".

I squee'd.

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And watching more, they say Spork a lot--"Spork therapy", etc. XDDDD

[Crazy Like a Fawkes]

And ZOMG they around 00:25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOCpkPJFtLY&feature=related), they say "Spork power", "Spork it out".

I squee'd.

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As did I. That video was amazing. I want to be their friend! And now I feel like a loser fangirl. :p

[Elanor Sarralyn]

D'aaaaawww! 5:20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un-icRqzSi4&feature=related), they do the Spork power thing again, and then talk about their Spork handshake. XDDDD

So. Much. Love.

[Pirate College Graduate]

Oh god. Just spent an hour watching Pinto interviews on YouTube, and :eek:

I want them to...guh. Please. If I did RPF, I would so ship them. They have such chemistry and play off of each other so damn well.

:eek: (<--also, I love that emoticon. *addicted*)

And ZOMG they around 00:25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOCpkPJFtLY&feature=related), they say "Spork power", "Spork it out".

I squee'd.

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And watching more, they say Spork a lot--"Spork therapy", etc. XDDDD


That is so great I cannot describe. So do we think they'll honestly be behind this if we try and contact them? Does it seem that to you all that they would take this seriously? If they would even support it, I mean. I haven't watched the interviews, so I don't know

And yes, super lame and such, but I replied to ZQ's twitter and mentioned the website. Sue me. :D

Lindsay

[Xerxies]

@Lindsay, No one will be able to contest us when we're at the premiere of nuTrek2, hanging out with ZQ and singing "I'm on a Boat" on the red carpet. Just saying.

THIS. I agree with this. Hahaha.
Also. I send you luffles and cuddles. You poor thing. <33333 I'm proud of you, excessively so, if that means anything. :eek:

[Elanor Sarralyn]

That is so great I cannot describe. So do we think they'll honestly be behind this if we try and contact them? Does it seem that to you all that they would take this seriously? If they would even support it, I mean. I haven't watched the interviews, so I don't know

And yes, super lame and such, but I replied to ZQ's twitter and mentioned the website. Sue me. :D

I think there's actually a chance they might. I can't really tell. They are very...they have a great camaraderie, playing off each other during interviews, having jokes they carry over from one interview to the next. And when people ask them about whether they're dating, etc., they joke about it, they don't flat out go NO THAT ENRAGES ME THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ASK. So maaybe. Hopefully. :)

:eek: Tell us if he says anything!

[Sussy]

XD I told you they were absolutely fabulous together. Their interviews are so LOL and full of win. They crack each other up so much it makes ME laugh.

Quote win: "The rivalry we have in life is really one over mastery the English language."--WIN

Also, blue is teh hotness on Quinto >.<

[Xerxies]

She's getting there, slowly but surely. I'm prepping her, but I'm going off to college, so I'll have to give her lessons in badassery over the phone and internetz. XD
I'm sure we could also be of service in her awesomeness tutelage. XD

[Pirate College Graduate]

I think there's actually a chance they might. I can't really tell. They are very...they have a great camaraderie, playing off each other during interviews, having jokes they carry over from one interview to the next. And when people ask them about whether they're dating, etc., they joke about it, they don't flat out go NO THAT ENRAGES ME THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ASK. So maaybe. Hopefully. :)

:eek: Tell us if he says anything!


If he ever did I would die. I feel so nerdish. But hey, that's okay, right?

SO wait. Do they say no, or do they avoid the question?

[Me or the Wallpaper]

My sister thinks all I do is a waste of time because she's an 'intellectual' and I am just the lowest of the low because I like comic Books and Science fiction, so I don't even bother to explain to her.

And If I explained to my my parents, they would just put it on their list of 'Reasons why I think my daughter is a Lesbian', even though I'm not! They would put it right next to 'Never had a boyfriend' and 'doesn't wear enough feminine clothes.'

That really is terrible with your sister. (Yes, I know, I'm commenting on a post that happened a while back, so sue me) But seriously, all of my good english professors have loved comic books and science fiction. Hell, they're two of my favorite things and I got into AP English and Advanced writing. We've analyzed literature in AP English before, and you know what the two things we were looking at were? Demian and The Sandman Series, I swear to god. Demian, among other things, is an extremely brilliant book about a boy struggling with all the parts of himself he loves and despises, one of the self proclaimed despicable bits being his own bisexuality. And Sandman is a graphic novel series by Neil Gaiman, winner of the Newber Medal.

So yeah, just wanted to take a moment to point out that you really shouldn't listen to her at all. ^_^'

[Elanor Sarralyn]

SO wait. Do they say no, or do they avoid the question?

They play off each other. "Yes." "No." "Yes. Maybe." "Perhaps." "Noooooo." "Yes. Sure." etc.

[art.nerd]

They play off each other. "Yes." "No." "Yes. Maybe." "Perhaps." "Noooooo." "Yes. Sure." etc.

Personally, I did some major LOLing at that part of the interveiw.
Wish I could remember where I saw it...

[Xerxies]

They play off each other. "Yes." "No." "Yes. Maybe." "Perhaps." "Noooooo." "Yes. Sure." etc.

HAHAHAH. /dies
That's so hilarious. I wish to see this. I request links. LIIIINKS. :eek:

[Elanor Sarralyn]

In this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iCa5TPYu0&feature=related), at around 3:45, the interviewer says, "So there is love here," and ZQ says, "Of course", and Chris Pine's reaction is funny. And then at about 6:20, Quinto says, "I love you, I'm kidding." :D

Ooh! And right at the beginning of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un-icRqzSi4&NR=1), the interviewer asks "Are you dating?" and they start on their no, yes, no, sure, etc.

:eek:

[art.nerd]

Aah...I was just about to post that! >.<
It took me a few minutes to find it again.
Tee-hee...they're so adorable!

[Elanor Sarralyn]

They aaaaaare. I'm so glad that they cast those two together--just one of them with someone else wouldn't've been quite the same.

[Xerxies]

In this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iCa5TPYu0&feature=related), at around 3:45, the interviewer says, "So there is love here," and ZQ says, "Of course", and Chris Pine's reaction is funny. And then at about 6:20, Quinto says, "I love you, I'm kidding." :D

Ooh! And right at the beginning of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un-icRqzSi4&NR=1), the interviewer asks "Are you dating?" and they start on their no, yes, no, sure, etc.

:eek:
:eek::eek:

I nearly died. YESYESYES.